Being a good person seems like an objective thing one can easily judge. Either the person acts like a decent human being or they don’t—it’s simple.

However, many philosophers would disagree with that statement and argue that things are more complex than just that. What is a virtue and what does being good really mean? Do good intentions mean good deeds and vice versa? It’s a topic of discussion that fascinates many.

The people in the following list do both great and awful things. A few also do awful things for the greater good. Are those things really that bad then? Are they bad people for doing them? The creator behind the 21st Century Socrates page tries to encourage this dialogue by discussing the values of these fascinating people. Bored Panda talked to him to see how this account came about. Scroll down to read the stories.

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